Rwanda: Supporters of scholar Léopold Munyakazi struggle to stop his deportation from the U.S.
KPFA/Ann Garrison: Ofelia Calderón, what happened to Professor Léopold Munyakazi last week?
Ofelia Calderón: The DHS picked him up, or ICE, the police of the DHS, picked him up at his home on Friday, September 4th, at 3 pm and took him into custody, and moved him from Baltimore to Louisiana to Miami, which is the classic staging step for deportation. He's always reported, and he's been on an ankle bracelet, so there's really no other reason to pick him up except to deport.
KPFA: What do you think the underlying political context of this is?
OF: I believe that the Rwandan government has been negotiating with the U.S. government to extradite individuals that they want to charge with these types of crimes, with genocide.
KPFA: And, Professor Munyakazi has been critical of the Rwandan government and its official genocide narrative, right?
OF: That is true. That's completely accurate. The Rwandan government issued its warrants of arrest for Professor Munyakazi in 2008. It was because he had given two speeches about the genocide and had characterized it differently from the Rwandan regime.
OF: That's correct. That's correct. And then coincidentally, they immediately and inbetween issued these warrants alleging that he had been involved in genocide, notwithstanding the fact that years prior evidence had been proffered specifically by witnesses who said that he hadn't been involved.
KPFA: Right, well they couldn't charge him with a speech crime, which seems to be what they're actually exercised about.
OF: To be fair, there was also a charge of genocide negation, and there was also a charge of divisionism.
KPFA: Oh, divisionism, OK.
OF: Having divisionist ideology.
KPFA: How did the U.S. courts deal with the speech crime issues?
OF: Well, I would say that in immigration court, I think that Judge Kessler certainly acknowledged that that was a motive for the Rwandan government to issue their warrants, but at the end of the day, she accepted the evidence that the Rwandan government had provided to the U.S. government and found that he was a human rights persecutor and, as a result, denied his application for asylum.
KPFA: There are lot of people working to try to stop this deportation. What are his chances?
OF: Right now his case is at the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. So, what I have done as his attorney is I filed a motion for an emergency stay with the Fourth Circuit, asking that they stay his deportation pending the culmination of the appeal at the circuit court level. An administrative stay was filed with ICE as well by friends and family and individuals that are very supportive of Professor Munyakazi. And there's a lot of pressure, I think, from the public now at this point to, at a minimum, permit him to stay for purposes of completing the appeal.
KPFA: Well, he could appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, couldn't he?
OF: Absolutely, that's right, but we haven't finished the circuit court point. The opening brief is due September 21st,
KPFA: And you believe in this case so much that you've been working on it pro bono for four years, right?
OF: I've been working on it pro bono since 2009. Six years.
KPFA: OK. What do you think will happen to Professor Munyakazi if he is in fact deported to Rwanda?
OF: Well, there's no dispute that Professor Munyakazi will be detained upon his arrival in Rwanda. I believe that he will suffer torture. I absolutely believe that. And to some extent, I also believe that. . .I believe his very life is in danger. For purposes of the Rwandan government, he is someone that they do not want to continue speaking.
KPFA: And that was Ofelia Calderón, attorney for Professor Léopold Munyakazi.
In Berkeley, for Pacifica, KPFA, and AfrobeatRadio, I'm Ann Garrison.
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